不对 要旋转 No, rotate.
你必须得旋转 You have to rotate it.
天哪 让我来 可以吗 Jesus Christ. May I?
谢谢你 Thank you.
她是琳达·特里普 That's Linda Tripp.
早上好 罗恩 Morning, Ron.
你好 肯 还是我 琳达·特里普 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. Again.
特效减肥
让我写自己岗位的操作手册... It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to manual
克林顿：裁决可能会增添总统的负担
...已经够吓人的了 for my own job, but it has now been nearly one month
但我一直在催讨的 我起头要用的材料 since I requested the materials I need to even
却一个月了还没收到 attempt to start on this, and-and still I've received nothing.
至少要把我的通讯录给我 At a minimum, I will need my correspondence books
还有59-60年的所有联民会档案 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
这些东西都在我的办公桌上 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle,
一眼就能看到 they would easily find all of these on my desk there.
露茜安 你最近和琳达谈过话吗? Lucianne, have you had any occasion to talk to Linda recently?
从琳达戴着窃听器去丽思酒店那天起 I haven't talked to Linda since the day she wore the wire
露茜安·哥德堡 琳达·特里普的朋友
我就没和她说过话 to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
斯塔尔叫她别和他人接触 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch.
-任何人吗 -对 - With anyone? - Right, with anyone.
全国只有十分之一的人赞同她 Are you surprised that only one out of ten Americans...
你对此吃惊吗 ...view her favorably?
不吃惊 因为白宫及其所有同情者们 No, not with how the White House and sundry sympathetic people
对琳达的讨论都极为负面 have framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative way.
也可能是大家都不喜欢对朋友私下录音的人 Do you think it also might be that people don't like people...
你认为呢 ...who tape their friends?
11号
要旋转 Rotate.
-你好 -嗨 - Hello. - Hi.
就这些 没有你办公室里的东西 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office...
我看了一下电话 And I... I checked the machine.
《纽约客》杂志有位叫简的女士... This lady named Jane from The New Yorker,
...留下了四条留言 she left, like, four messages.
-她正在写一篇... -太好了 - She's writing an article about... - Fabulous.
我现在根本无能为力 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that.
你可以给她回个电话 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her.
艾莉森 我的律师说过 这是不明智的 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise.
我会失去豁免权的 I would lose my immunity.
此外 克林顿夫妇也想把我描绘成戈培尔 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me into Joseph Goebbels.
全世界都相信他们 And the whole world believes them.
妈妈 还是回家去吧 Mom, just come home already.
我不喜欢和老爸住 I'm sick of staying with Dad.
这也难怪你 Can't blame you on that.
街上已没记者了 我每天都去那里 The reporters are gone from our street and I go by every day.
你别去 Well, you shouldn't.
不安全 It's not safe.
但那里已经没人了 But there's no one there anymore.
你别这样了 妈妈 这样对你不好的 I mean, come on. Mom? This? This is not healthy.
你要去见大陪审团 You have your grand jury thing, you are under
压力那么大 又一个人待在这里 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone
成天看这些写你的文章 all day, reading articles about yourself.
我不光要作证 It's not just my testimony.
我还要发表声明 I'm going to make a statement.
啥意思 What do you mean?
我决定了 等我可以回去后 I've decided, once I have my freedom back,
我要发表声明 我要告诉全美国 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation.
告诉什么 What are you going to say?
讲一讲我的故事 I'm simply going to tell my story.
美国罪案故事第三季 弹劾 第九集
这不公平 It's not fair.
他不用去法院作证 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse.
可以在家作证 He got to testify at home.
我又不是总统 I'm not the president.
没事的 Okay, no, really...
怎么样 我不像一个“疯癫的破鞋”吧 how do I look? I'm going for "Not a deranged whore."
那该怎么说 Okay, what do you want me to say?
我要接受23个陌生人的提问 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers,
不管他们是谁 肯定都很讨厌我 and whoever they are, I'm sure they already hate me.
你好了吗 Are you ready?
我们承诺过要出台一个综合性的策略 We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy
降低犯罪率 让美国变得更加安全 to lower the crime rate and make America a safer place to live.
实况报道
-这根领带是我送他的 -什么 - I gave him that tie. - What?
...已颇有成效 has shown remarkable result.
是我在马扎商城尼曼店买的杰尼亚领带 It's Zegna. I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie.
-他知道今天她要作证吗 -那肯定 - Does he know that she is testifying today. - I'm sure.
你觉得这是他在提醒她吗 Do you think he's trying to send her a message?
这合法吗 I mean, is that even legal?
-妈 -这事我要说吗 - Mom. - Should I tell someone about that?
没事 It's fine.
这影响不了我 I'm not going to let it mess me up.
巴雷特·普雷蒂曼美国法院
她来了 她在那辆车里 She's here, she's here! She's in that car!
-莫妮卡 -喂 莫妮卡 - Monica! - Hey, Monica!
挺住 莫妮卡
我能拯救你 莫妮卡 I can save you, Monica!
罪人
你会下地狱 You are going to hell!
莫妮卡 你有何感受 Monica, how are you feeling?
莫妮卡 你爱总统吗 Monica, are you in love with the president?
感觉如何? Feel ready?
看到法庭我很兴奋 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom.
我一直干秘书活 You know, this is the first time...
这是第一次被斯塔尔委以重任 ...Starr's given me anything to do beyond secretarial work.
他是个老派 He is old-fashioned.
虽然我和莫妮卡比较熟 And look, Monica and I are familiar,
但斯塔尔想的也对 but Starr does have a point.
有些问题还是女的来问比较好 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions.
-她来了 -好 - She's here. - Okay.
让陪审团进来吧 You can bring in the jury.
-他们都在里面了吗? -对 他们刚到 - Are they already in there? - Yes, they've just been seated.
我们会在这里等你 We'll be right out here, anytime you need.
上午好 Good morning.
坐在那里吧 You can have a seat right there.
-请你举起右手好吗? -好 - Can you raise your right hand? - Sure, yes.
莫妮卡·莱温斯基 你能否向上帝发誓 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth,
你所讲的一切均为事实 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
我发誓 I do.
莱温斯基女士 我们现在要谈的... Now, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do is we're going to...
...是你和总统之间的关系 ...start off talking about your relationship with the president.
我可以知道他们的名字吗 Do I not get to learn people's names?
这个不可以 The answer to that is no.
我理解 你会感觉... Um, I know it seems kind of...
有点难堪 Kind of awkward.
重要的是 记录里不能有他们的姓名 It's important that the record have no identifications.
明白 Okay.
我们经过讨论 觉得有些问题... Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more...
...让伊玛格特女士来问 你会感觉舒服些 ...comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut,
所以先让她来向你提问 so I'm going to turn it over to her now.
莱温斯基女士 你能否告诉陪审团 Ms. Lewinsky, can you tell the grand jury:
你和美国总统之间的男女关系 when did you start your relationship
起始于何时 with the president of the United States?
1995年11月15日 November 15, 1995.
那时恰逢政府停摆 我被派往西厢工作 It was during the shutdown when I was assigned to the West Wing.
能把经过告诉陪审团吗 Can you tell the grand jury what happened?
大约在晚上八点 Around... around 8:00 in the evening
我去斯特凡诺普洛斯先生的办公室 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
总统也在那里 The president... was in there.
他邀请我去隔壁的房间 He invited me into the next room and...
后来 我们就接吻了 ... then...we kissed.
此外还发生了什么 Did anything else happen between you?
接吻过后 我们的举动就更亲热了 And we were more... physically intimate after that.
那是什么意思 And what do you mean by that?
在那天 你替总统实施口交了吗 On that occasion, did you perform oral sex on the president?
天哪 这太令人难堪了 God, this is embarrassing.
你放心 我们不会老问这个的 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this.
是的 Yes, I did.
上帝啊 Jesus.
还有其他亲昵举动发生吗 Was there any other physical intimacy performed?
只是口交而已 Everything up to oral sex.
接下来 Now, to avoid you...
为了让你避免重述肌肤之亲的行为 ...having to go into each subsequent act of physical intimacy,
我们将呈现一份清单 we'll introduce what we have marked...
名为“莫·莱证据7” ...as Exhibit ML-7.
96年1月7日： 幽会-傍晚时分 -约45钟-书房卫生间 -肌肤相亲 包括口交
清单上的内容均是你提供的吗 Did you provide all the information listed on this chart?
是的 Yes, I did.
这里所写的 This details...
你与克林顿总统的每一次性接触 ...each of your sexual encounters with President Clinton.
在你看来 是否全部准确无误 To the best of your knowledge, is it all accurate?
虽然我已无地自容 但是 都准确 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes.
莱温斯基女士 在你和总统的关系里 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president
是否含有... have a...
...与性无关的内容 ...non-sexual component?
-有 -你能向陪审团描述一下吗 - Yes, it did. - Could you describe that for the grand jury?
当然可以 Sure, um...
我们不光是... It was more than just...
我们在一起时很愉快 We enjoyed being with each other.
他... 我们会讲笑话 He'd... we would tell jokes,
会讲述各自的童年和现在 talk about our childhoods, current events.
有时我们... Sometimes we'd just...
我们会很深情 Um, we'd just be affectionate.
他会缕开我脸上的头发 He'd push my hair out of my face.
回想起这些... I think back on it and...
他总能让我笑得很开心 he always made me smile when I was with him.
更多的时候... It was a lot of...
他就是我的阳光 He was sunshine.
能暂停一下吗 We okay for a break?
十分钟够吗 Yeah, ten minutes?
休息十分钟 各位 Ten minutes, everyone.
看了你的书面证词 我要问你一个问题 Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question.
第八行写道： Paragraph eight begins,
“我和总统之间从未有过性关系” "I have never had a sexual relationship with the president."
这正确吗 Is that true?
-不正确 -好 - No. - Okay,
那么接下来我自然要问 so the next logical follow-up is:
你当时甘冒违法的风险来说谎 why were you willing to say something false
这是为什么 under penalty of perjury?
我当时觉得这是我的私事 与他人无关 I did not think my private relationship was anyone's business.
没人叫我撒谎 包括总统在内 没人 No one asked me to lie... not the president, not anyone.
我这么做... I made that decision.
是自己决定的 By myself.
我不得不说 我不该那样 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly.
谢谢你 Thank you.
现在 陪审团要问你几个问题 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you.
好的 Okay.
你和总统是否谈论过 Did you and the president ever talk about...
如果有人问起 要否认这层关系 ...denying the relationship if anyone asked about it?
我是主动要否认的 我一直对他这么说 I offered that on my own. I always told him I would deny it.
你为何留着那条裙子 Why did you keep that stained black dress?
-那条蓝裙子 -对 - It's a blue dress. - Blue.
请回答 Answer the question, please.
我的衣服有很多 Well, I have a lot of
我不经常拿去干洗 clothes, and so I don't usually dry-clean things
总要拖到想穿时才会去洗 until I'm going to wear them again.
我不知道你们是怎样的 Like, I don't know how you guys are,
但我的脏外衣... but you have clothes to dry-clean
...都堆在衣柜里 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you
然后想穿时再一起拿去干洗 dry-clean them all together when you need them.
我可能... And now I feel like I'm talking about
...把洗衣服的程序说得太唠叨了一点 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning.
另外 那条裙子... Anyway, with that dress...
我本来是想再穿的 I was going to wear it again
但当我告诉琳达时 and when I told Linda that,
她说我穿着显胖 she told me I looked heavy in it.
所以我最后就没去穿它 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again.
因此 也没去洗它 Ergo I never cleaned it.
这个回答可以吗 Does that answer your question?
莱温斯基女士 对于你和总统的关系 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage
你母亲劝阻过你吗 your relationship with the president?
劝阻过 Yes.
那你为何还要继续 Well, then, what kept it going?
我爱上他了 I fell in love.
我有个问题 I have a question.
你说你的感觉就像是在恋爱 You said you felt you were in a real relationship.
是动了真情 A real connection.
-对 -而他是个有妇之夫 - Yes. - With this married man.
是的 Yes.
报纸上说 你以前也谈过一次恋爱 It's been in the papers you had a relationship before.
和这次一样 对方也是有妇之夫 Similar to this, a married man.
凯特和安迪在电视上的讲话 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV,
是完全不准确的 it's not entirely accurate.
如果你想说这个... I-If that's the part that you're, um...
我只知道 The only part I know is that
他是个有妇之夫 他有家庭 he was a married man and had a family.
对 Yes.
我知道 总统也是如此 Like I know about the president.
你想让我们相信你所说的话 We're asked to trust your version of events,
但看起来你来华盛顿寻找的是婚外恋 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out...
那是建立在谎言和欺骗之上的恋情 ...an affair based on deception and lies.
你不觉得这是错误的吗 Did you not believe that this was wrong?
我的目的... My intention...
我来华府是想重新开始生活 when I came to Washington was to start over.
我不想再爱上有妇之夫 I did not want to have another affair with a married man
因为这很痛苦 because it was horrible.
我不知道我为何又会这样 And I don't know why I did it again.
我只知道我又这样了 I just know that I did it again.
我知道大家都认为这是错误的 我也这么认为 And I know a lot of people think that's wrong, and so do I.
我也知道... I know...
自己身上有许多毛病需要纠正 there's a lot of work I need to do on myself.
我之所以问这个 I just feel I had to...
是因为我们大家都很困惑 ...ask the question because a lot of us are confused.
-我不困惑 -这太无礼了 - I'm not. - No need to be rude.
没关系 It's okay.
其实我真的很感谢... In a way, I really, I really appreciate
...你想了解我的思想 you asking me where I'm coming from,
因为别人只关心我惹的事 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so...
所以 你的问题我很重视 Um, I really respect your question
也很感谢你说的话 and I appreciate what you're saying.
很遗憾没法称呼你 Whatever your name is.
莱温斯基女士 Ms. Lewinsky...
你们可以叫我莫妮卡吗 Can you, can you guys call me Monica?
允许他们叫我莫妮卡吗 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica?
你允许就行 If you say so.
可以 Sure.
我才25岁 所以... I'm just 25. Please.
不管你是几岁 你终究还是莱温斯基女士 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or...
没结婚就不是女士 Not when I get married.
莫妮卡 Monica,
你还爱着总统吗 do you still love the president?
我在丽思酒店被扣那天 The day they held me at the Ritz,
他们要我给他打电话 they wanted me to turn on him.
我拒绝了 I said no.
我那时不愿做任何伤害他的事 I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt.
后来这事曝光后 为他效力的那些人... And then when this all came out, the people that worked for him,
他们诋毁我 they trashed me.
他们虽然不承认 They claim that they haven't,
但他们说我是跟踪狂 说我爱撒谎 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar.
说我行为不端 这你们都知道 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know.
后来他发表了那段讲话 And then he makes this speech.
他说... And he says...
他把这事描绘成... He makes it seem like...
他似乎觉得这件事对他很不公平 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this has been to him.
所以... 对不起 我要回答你的问题 So to... sorry... to answer your question, um...
在我心里他已面目全非 it turns out he's not who I thought he was.
莫妮卡 关于你刚才提到的... Monica, about that day you just mentioned
...被独检办扣住一事 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick
你能否再说得详细一些 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that?
我能否问一下 你们想了解什么方面的事 If I could ask, what areas are you wanting to get into?
因为时间已经不太多了 Because we're already tight for time and,
再说 那天发生了那么多事... well, you know, there were... many hours of activity.
我就想知道那天的事 Just want to know about that day.
这个问题我们还是以后再谈... Okay, well, how about we table that for now...
不 我想听那天的事 No, I want to hear about that.
我们应该了解 We should be able to hear about that day.
-为什么不让她说呢 -让她说 - Let her talk. Why not? - Let her talk.
好吧 继续 All right, go ahead.
你是在五角市的美食城 So, you were approached in the food court
被两名联调局特工拦住的 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents.
是琳达把你骗到那里去的 对吗 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right?
对 Yes.
然后他们把你带进酒店的房间里 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room.
你为何不叫你的律师? Why didn't you ask for your lawyer?
我想叫的 I did.
但他们说我惹了麻烦 But they told me I was in trouble and that
有律师在的话 对我反而不利 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present,
所以我就没叫 so I just did what they said.
他们是联调局的 我很害怕 It was the FBI and I was really scared.
说一下你进去后的事 What happened when you got up there?
对不起 S-Sorry.
我想请你离开一下 可以吗 Would it be okay... can you step out?
让卡琳接替你 可以吗 Karin can take over from here, right?
卡琳可以接替 Karin can take over.
卡琳可以留下 Karin can stay.
谢谢 Thank you.
他们说如果我叫律师 我就不会被豁免 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity.
你被这个吓住了吗 Did you feel threatened by that?
他们允许你叫其他律师了吗 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney?
他们推荐了一个 They suggested one.
你接受了吗 Did you take them up on that?
-没有 -为什么 - No. - Why not?
因为我不信任他们 Because I didn't trust them.
听上去他们是在竭力劝阻你 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you...
让你别叫律师 ...from talking to an attorney.
是别叫弗兰克·卡特 Well, from talking to Frank Carter.
对 卡特是我唯一的律师 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney.
能休息十分钟吗 Are we due for a ten-minute break?
不行 女士 No, ma'am.
一共持续了约12小时 It lasted about 12 hours in total.
天哪 My God. Wow.
他们反复地说 我随时可以离开 And they told me over and over that I was free to leave,
但我不明白... but I didn't...
我不明白是因为... I didn't understand because they also said
...他们还说要起诉我 they were prepared to indict me and I could
说我会入狱28年 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would
还说如果我不合作 还会起诉我母亲 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So...
所以 我很困惑 也很... I was, confused and...
你当时愤怒吗 Were you angry?
是的 我愤怒的是自己 把事情搞成这样 Yes, mostly at myself. For ending up in this situation.
将总统置于危险的境地 And for putting the president at risk.
而且 And...
也让自己的家人身陷困境 And-and for, doing this to my family.
莫妮卡 是他们在设套害你 Monica, they set you in a trap.
他们就是这样 It's what they do.
莫妮卡 这次作证 Monica, is there anything...
你还有什么其他事想说的 ...else you'd like to add to your testimony?
你想说什么都可以 We want to give you the fullest opportunity.
我想说的是 没人要求我撒谎 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie.
也没有以沉默为条件获取工作 And I was never promised a job for my silence.
我就是 很抱歉 Mostly I'm sorry.
我真的很抱歉一切会变成这样 I'm really sorry for everything that happened.
我恨琳达·特里普 And I hate Linda Tripp.
这是正确的 I know that's right.
忘了她 Forget her.
-她迟早会有报应 -是的 - What goes around comes around. - It does.
我要从这里进去 I am going to go in
把这里多余的软骨和骨头去掉 and remove some extra cartilage and bone right here.
然后把皮肤从肌肉组织上撕开 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin
比弗利山庄
才能把这个凸块凿掉 off of the tissue so I can chisel that bump down.
最后再把它劈开 才能盖上“屋顶” Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof,
它跟盖房子很相似 much the same way you would on a house.
听懂了吗 Does that make sense?
懂了 Yeah.
洛布医生技术相当精湛 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
谢谢 Thanks.
好 那我就去做最后的准备工作了 Okay, I'm going to go ahead and step out and do my final prep.
-待会儿见 -好的 - I'll see you in there. - Okay.
-史蒂夫在哪里 -他不想来 - Where's Steve? - He didn't want to come.
他还在为丢了工作而忧虑吗 Is he still in a funk about losing his job?
天哪 是的 Gosh, yes, he's...
他说是我的官司害的 blaming my case and says the airline
说航空公司解雇他是迫于克林顿的压力 fired him because of pressure from Clinton,
但 苏茜 but, Susie,
我猜是因为他们要他调整上班时间 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to.
而他不愿意 I think that's all that it is.
这你对他说了吗 Well, did you tell him that?
我的话他听不进 He won't listen to me.
喂 你怕吗 Hey. You nervous?
我很高兴 I'm just glad that
大家以后不会再笑话我的大鼻子了 people'll stop making fun of my big ol' awful nose.
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有人告诉我 有一首俄罗斯儿歌是这样唱的 I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says,
“我们要种什么树 要收什么木? "What do we plant when we plant a new wood?
用它造出的船 惊涛骇浪打不翻” Boats in which waves can safely be withstood."
在我们两国里 In both our nations,
音乐教育就是那艘我们共同乘坐的坚固木船 music education is that sturdy boat that lifts us up,
它承载着我们独特的文化瑰宝 驶向未来 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future.
现在我要很荣幸地请出美国总统... And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton,
...比尔·克林顿 president of the United States.
总统先生 鲍尔斯先生说你要这份... Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list...
我知道是什么 谢谢 I know what it is. Thanks.
贝蒂 你去把第一夫人叫来好吗 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me?
我这就去 Right away, sir.
有可能会同意弹劾的民主党成员
你想见我 You wanted to see me?
我有话想说 I wanted to say something.
25年来 你的意见一直是我的金玉良言 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about.
这个年龄的大多数男人都会觉得妻子很无聊 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull
都不喜欢妻子在餐桌上唠叨 they cringe when she talks at dinner.
我很同情这些男人 I pity those men.
他们没我这样的福气 They don't have what I do.
我一时冲动 犯下肮脏大错 I gave in to a disgusting impulse.
因为我不知道该如何走过来... Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall
...告诉我最好的朋友 and say to my best friend
这份工作的孤独感 that this job is lonely
还有我的疲惫 and I'm worn to the bone...
很多时候我就像具行尸走肉 and I'm dead inside half the time.
自从来到这里后 There's been hell raining down on us
我们就从没安宁过 from the day we walked into this place.
我们每走一步 You know, every move we make,
那些右派和媒体 the right, the press, they seize,
都会无中生有地攻击和羞辱我们 attack and drag us through the streets over nothing.
我是很蠢 但当纽特关闭了政府时 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government,
当斯塔尔侵入我们的生活 and Starr has slithered into our lives
翻遍我们的所有购物单据 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt
企图寻找我们的罪证时 of every piddly thing we've ever bought,
我也想过自己得坚强 I thought I had to be strong for us.
可没想到 我全搞砸了 And instead, I fucked it all up.
这事刚曝光时 我羞愧难当 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to...
好想钻进地里去 ...crawl in a hole and disappear.
我不忍让你和切尔茜受伤 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea.
我不敢告诉你 我不敢 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't.
所以越搞越糟 只能骗你 So I made it worse and I lied.
我的所有成果都来自我们的共同努力 Everything good in my life comes out of us together.
没有你 我会迷失自己 I don't know who I am without you.
虽然你并不在乎此事的起因 I know you said you didn't care why it happened.
但我还是想告诉你 But I wanted you to know.
-说完了吗? -没有 - Is that all? - No.
我爱你 I love you.
说完了 That's all.
联邦快递
-妈妈 -我在忙 - Mom? - Busy.
这里全是这个 There's all this stuff in here.
原来你被逮捕过 I didn't know that you were arrested.
那是恶作剧 是一些小鬼把东西塞进了我包里 It was a teen prank. Some boys put things in my purse as a joke.
这里写了你爸... Okay, but this part about your dad...
你从没对我讲起过他 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have
现在却看到这个 我不懂是怎么回事 no idea why until someone writes an article about it.
天哪 My God.
上帝啊 Jesus Christ.
难以置信 Unbelievable.
-怎么了 -这些全不是我要的东西 - What? - None of this is what I asked for.
他们明明知道我要什么 They know what I need to do my job and they...
却给我送来了一堆没用的纸 they send me a completely useless pile of paper.
一堆皱巴巴的纸 And look at the shape it's in.
这是个信号 This is a message.
可能是寄的人太懒了 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries.
拿我的包来 Bring my purse.
我的天哪 My God.
琳达 没想到你会来 Linda, I didn't know you were coming in.
我要见肯 I need to see Ken.
对不起 Excuse me.
我是员工 I work here.
我得挂了 好 你出去好了 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just... Leave us.
琳达 你知道你不能这样... Linda, you know you cannot just...
这个邮包你核准过吗? Did you oversee and approve this shipment?
-什么 -很简单的问题 - What? - It's a simple question.
这个邮包你核准过吗 Did you oversee and approve this shipment?
我... I can't say that I have any...
我要的是... Because I asked for the basic materials
...我干活要用的基础材料 I need to do my job and what I got
却给我送来了一堆乱七八糟的邮件纸 was random printed email traffic.
联民会参与者名单也是在盒子里乱放一气 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box.
-琳达 -这是令人恐怖的 - Linda. - This is chilling.
这是一种同事间的非直接敌视行为 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, simply because
就因为我是联邦调查案里的合作证人 I'm a cooperating witness in a federal investigation.
这肯定他们是弄错了 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake.
-谁会相信 肯 -听我说 - We are past that, Ken. - Listen.
把你需要的东西写下来 然后... Just write down exactly what you need and then we...
我需要的是 What I need
我能来这里正常地上班 is to come here like normal and do my work.
我相信很快就会这样 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon,
那些事会处理好 and that things will settle down,
只是国防部刚刚开始调查 but DOD just opened this investigation
-等到... -什么 - and until we... - What?
调查什么 What investigation?
他们会联系你的 They'll be contacting you.
我们雇佣你时 When you were hired,
你在审核表上填的是你“从未被逮捕过” you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested.
现在 《纽约客》发表... Now, The New Yorker has come out...
那是小鬼们的恶作剧 It was a teen prank!
-琳达 -他们耍我 - Linda... - On me!
对我的指控也被撤销了 The charges were dropped.
琳达 你不能在国防部的安全审核表上撒谎 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense
那是非常严重的违法行为 on a security clearance form. That is a serious crime.
懂了 I see.
我明白了 I see now.
你明白了什么 You see what?
他们真的来整我了 They're really coming after me.
那好 Okay, well...
布朗伍德生命关爱中心
下午好 夫人 我是联调局特工 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons
我叫艾恩斯 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
这位是特工法伦 This is Special Agent Fallon.
能和你谈谈吗 Do you have a moment to speak with us?
谢谢 夫人 Thank you, ma'am.
我们隶属于... We're detailed with the Office...
...肯·斯塔尔的独检办 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.
你可能在电视上见过他 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news.
他的调查已快结束 Well, he's finishing up his investigation,
并即将向国会递交报告 preparing to make a report to Congress.
我们来是想再了解些情况 We're just here following up on some threads.
你可能也已了解 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others are in
总统等人因在琼斯一案里的伪证 legal peril because of false affidavits
而涉嫌违法 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit.
我们想把工作做得更仔细点 这你懂 We're just dotting our I's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
这是你在琼斯一案里的书面证词 Now, here is your Jones affidavit.
你是在数月前签署的 You swore this a few months back.
上面说 克林顿总统 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton
从未向你提出过任何不当性要求 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you.
女士 Ma'am,
你的这份证词... were you being truthful when you signed your name
...是事实吗 to this statement?
我不太明白 I don't... I don't get it.
好 谢谢 再见 Okay. Thank you. Bye.
-你的试镜怎么样 -搞砸了 - How was your audition? - It sucked.
谁的电话 Who was that?
是律师 他们说... The lawyers. They said...
法官做出了简易判决 the judge did a summary judgment.
怎么判的 What is that?
判得不好 她的判决是 此案不予受理 It's... it's bad. It means that she threw out the case.
最高法院说你可以起诉 The Supreme Court said you had a case.
但这位法官说不行 所以我... But now the judge says I don't, so I...
我想这事没戏了 I guess it's over.
什么 那我们能拿到多少钱 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get?
我要说的就是这个 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um...
啥也没有 一分钱也得不到 It's nothing. We get nothing.
-混账！-我知道 我知道 - The fuck?! - I know. I know,
-我给苏茜打电话 -真聪明 -I need to call Susie. - Yeah, great idea.
-她总会把事情越办越好 -你别这么说 - Smart. She always makes things better. - Steve, don't.
那我们还是接受和解条件吧 No, no, we need to go back and we need to take Clinton's deal.
我需要那笔钱 I wanted that money.
什么 不会吧 What? No, no, but...
当初是你和苏茜都叫我别拿这笔钱... you and Susie told me that I shouldn't take it, so...
我他妈不想再听到你的声音 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice.
天哪 你这么说可不公平 因为... Wait, but that is not fair because I... gosh,
我的这场官司可是你叫我打的 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to.
我是为了你才打官司的 I-I did... I did all this for you.
你简直蠢到家了 看看你 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face
弄个鼻子都把脸破成这样 all broken from a nose job.
因为我的鼻子很难看 Because I got a bad nose,
我以前并不知道它难看 which I didn't even know I had
就是因为你要打官司 害我上了电视 until you made me do this and be on TV
受尽别人的耻笑 and people laughed at me, but...
但我没有退缩 我总是啥都依你 but I did it, like I always do what you say.
你以为我喜欢去加州 You think I liked moving to California,
那里的人当面笑眯眯 心里却讨厌你 where I've never seen so many people who smile
让我浑身起鸡皮疙瘩 while they hate you and it makes my skin fucking crawl
那里的太阳一天晒到晚... and it's sunny all day and it's...
你觉得还是回家好 You think it'll be better if we move home,
这里人人都知道你干过些什么勾当 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did?
你说“勾当”什么意思 What do you mean, "What I did"?
你什么意思 What do you mean?
说出来 Say it.
说啊 史蒂夫 Say it, Steve.
你认为我做过 You think I did it.
你认为我是替他口交了 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job.
行 好吧 好吧 Yeah, okay, okay.
我能接受杰伊·莱诺这样说我 I can take this from Jay Leno
能接受旺斯超市里众人的嘲笑 and people laughing at me at Vons, but...
但你不行 from you?
你是应该相信我的 You're supposed to believe me!
我们应该齐心协力地告诉世人 错的是他 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong!
然而 And...
现实却是... And in reality, all this is...
开不完的记者会 看不完的杂志和电视秀 all the press conferences and all the magazines and the TV shows
还有那些越来越多的律师 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers...
想让你相信我的人只有我一个！ it's just me trying to get you to believe me!
但我们都知道你根本不相信我 那该怎么办 Which we both know you never did, so you know what?
你敢说我蠢 我去你妈的 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you!
但有一件事我的确很蠢 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing,
那就是我居然会相信... it was believing that you were any more
...你这个胆小如鼠的垃圾是关心我的 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all!
你以为我会叫你别走吗 ！ You think I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
非常简单 Okay, it's pretty simple.
把这些磁带都听一遍 You listen to all of these tapes.
每听完一盘就签字 After each one, you sign the tape,
文件上也要签日期和名字 as well as sign and date those documents,
以确认这些都是你和特里普的声音 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp.
我必须要全听吗 I have to listen to all of these?
它们全是证据 They're all evidence.
卡琳会陪你坐在这里 Karin here will sit in with you.
我也想留下 但我得去法院 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse.
你要去干什么 What's happening at the courthouse?
琳达·特里普 你能否向上帝发誓 Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth,
你所讲的一切均为事实 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
我发誓 I do.
播放吗 You ready?
-嗨 -嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
你好吗 How are you?
陪审团要了解的这盘磁带是“磁带11” Now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, I'd like to read to you...
现在我要和维森贝格一起向你读一下其内容 ...what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11.
这是录音文本 You have a, transcript there.
开始 Okay.
“琳达 我给大混蛋买了条领带 "Linda, I got the creep a tie.
20元钱 在马歇尔买的” It was 20 bucks at Marshalls."
“不错 什么牌子的 ” "Good, who makes it?"
“卡尔文·克莱因 很漂亮 琳达” "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda."
“马歇尔商场经常会有意想不到的收获” "Yeah, Marshalls generally, every now and then, you can hit."
“和我送的其他领带比 它真的很不一样 "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him.
我给它附了一张卡 上面写了句笑话” "I'm putting a note with it. I wrote such a funny card to him."
琳达·特里普笑了 Linda Tripp laughs.
我说 “这条领带要配灰褐或藏青色西服 I said, "This tie will look good with either a taupe or navy suit
还有白色或浅蓝色衬衣 但愿你会喜欢” and a white or a light blue shirt.That is, if you like it."
“然后你猜我写了什么 "And then do you know what I wrote?
我写了‘你数一下 现在如果你想谢我的话 "I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me...
在下个工作周里 "If you want by having...
你就可以每天都系一根我送的领带了’” ...a work week in which you wear one of my ties every day.'"
琳达·特里普笑了 Linda Tripp laughs.
莱温斯基女士笑了 Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
这是第五条领带吗 'Cause this is the fifth one, right?
他周末要系的领带你也得送 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too.
“我是想送 我就是这么想的 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy.
让大混蛋每天都系着我送的领带” To have the creep wear one of my ties every day."
特里普女士 Um, Ms. Tripp, who
“大混蛋”是指谁 was the creep?
美国总统 The president of the United States.
你和莫妮卡平时交谈的内容 Was this typical of the sort of subject
基本上都是这个话题吗 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss?
对 除了总统 Yes, we almost never talked...
我们很少谈别的 ...about anything aside from the president.
她是否向你讲述了许多亲密的细节 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not?
是的 She did.
我以前也曾难受过 但这次不一样 I was upset before, but not like I am now.
天哪 Man.
我受不了 It's too much for one person.
是的 你当然受不了这个 It is too much for one person. Yes, it is.
到了1997年的11月 Moving into November 1997.
莱温斯基女士在和你的通话里... Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly...
...是否越发显得心烦意乱 ...distraught on her calls with you?
是的 她魂不守舍 因为总统不太和她联系了 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact.
她想联系总统的话 一般是走什么途径 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact?
她会打电话给贝蒂 She would call Betty Currie...
然后再把这事告诉我 ...and then call me to tell me she called Betty.
要是贝蒂一小时内没有回应 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her within an hour,
她就会生气 she would get angry.
然后她会再找贝蒂 完了再找我 and call Betty again, then call me again.
她的情绪由此会变得异常的狂乱 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst.
好 现在我们进入到... Okay, now I'd like to move...
对不起 我能问个问题吗 Sorry, can I ask a question?
你有没有叫她别再给你打电话了 Did you want Monica to stop calling you?
有过 Yes.
那样她就会变得反复无常 很古怪 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic.
那你为何不直接说 “别再打电话给我”了 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"?
-我的孩子也这么说 -那你为何不说 - That's what my kid said. -So why didn't you?
从某种程度上讲 Well, at a, at a certain point,
你没法一走了之 you can't unring a bell.
听你的口气 好像情况很严重 You talk like this was a grave situation...
对莫妮卡很有害 是吗 ...and harmful for Monica, right?
对 很有害 Yes, very.
但我们刚才听到 But earlier we heard you encouraging her
你要她把他一周要系的领带都买好 to buy him a tie for each day of the week.
这个... Well, that...
这是个玩笑 I was joking.
当莫妮卡说 “我给大混蛋买了条领带 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie.
20元钱 在马歇尔买的” It was 20 bucks at Marshalls,"
你的回答是“不错” you replied, "Good."
这个“不错” Well, I was being...
更多的是指商场不错 That was more of a pro-Marshalls.
那这到底属于情况严重呢 还是属于笑料 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter?
这是断章取义了 That's one moment out of context.
你是想让她一直说下去吧 Or were you just trying to keep her talking?
因为那时你已经在录音了 Because by then you were taping.
那是记录 I prefer to call it documenting.
-你为何录音... -我们稍后再问这个吧 - Why did you tape her? - We'll get to that in just a little bit.
我是因为需要证据才记录通话的 I documented our phone calls because I knew I needed evidence.
干吗要证据 Evidence for what?
在我想揭发的时候... Well, for... so when I came forward...
-但这属于个人隐私 -你不理解... - But it was a private matter. - I don't think you comprehend...
这是他俩之间的事 别人无需知道 It was between Monica and the president. No one needed to know.
一个是非常年轻的工作人员 Actually, this was a very young staffer
另一个是位于同一工作场所的政府首脑 in a workplace with the most senior official in that workplace
而后者所做的事总是让她痛苦不堪 making choices that were causing her severe distress.
她不止一次地对我说过她想自杀 She told me on more than one occasion she wanted to kill herself.
但为了满足私欲 And still, the president
那位美国总统却依然在继续玩弄她 of the United States used her to meet his needs.
这里的强者是他 他的行为是不对的 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable.
这是在滥用职权 It was an abuse of power.
-特里普女士... -我得制止它 - Mrs. Tripp... - I had to end it.
我必须得制止它 I had to end it.
特里普女士 当你决定... Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
...开始记录莫妮卡的谈话时 begin documenting Monica,
你曾极为焦虑不安 是吗 you were under enormous stress, correct?
我很害怕 I was terrified.
我知道 要是我的揭发没有证据 I knew if I came forward with no evidence,
他们会毁了我 they would destroy me.
你说的“他们”是指谁 When you say "they," Who are you referring to?
比尔·克林顿 Bill Clinton.
还有希拉里·克林顿 And, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
天哪 Man.
总统的律师... The president's lawyer...
曾在《新闻周刊》上发表声明诽谤我 ...had already made a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek.
我当时很肯定自己会在琼斯一案里作证 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed in the Paula Jones case.
如果我说出实话 我想肯定会丢了饭碗 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, I would lose my job.
或更惨 Or worse.
你认为 假如你在琼斯一案里作证... You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case...
我怕自己根本去不了 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance.
你是说 你可能会被杀掉吗 Are you... are you saying you thought you would be killed?
是的 Yes.
为什么 Why?
我的这种害怕是有根据的 I have what I consider well-founded fears...
这届政府什么事都做得出来 of what this administration is capable of.
能举个例子吗 Can you give an example?
我有理由相信 I have, reason to believe
对于文斯·福斯特的悲剧 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not
政府官员们的那些说法是不准确的 depicted accurately by members of the administration.
你是说 他并非是自杀吗 Are you... are you saying he didn't commit suicide?
我们永远也不会知道 We will never know.
特里普夫人 对于白宫和福斯特之死 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information
你是否知道些什么 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster?
我只想说 I'll just say this.
悲剧发生后的第二天 The day after that tragedy,
我在西厢看到的场景令我很害怕 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me.
那里显得异常忙碌 There was a flurry of activity,
又是搬文件又是秘密开会 boxes and secrecy behind closed doors.
我很紧张 也很担心 I was concerned, and I was alarmed.
是因为他们在秘密开会吗 Because people were meeting behind closed doors?
令我害怕的远远不光是这个 It was far more ominous than that.
我是在真实地告诉你们 我感觉到有威胁 I am telling you, under oath today, that I felt threatened.
我很愤怒 我对此很憎恶 And I was angry. And I resented it.
-现在也这样 -我有个问题 - And still do. - I have a question.
你有没有想过 Did you ever think about...
这事曝光后 莫妮卡会有何后果 ...what would happen to Monica when all this came out?
好吧 回头再打给我 你这个疯子 All right, call me back, you nut.
-我会打的 -再见 - I will, I will. - Bye.
结束 Done.
你的律师有辆车在门口 Your attorney has a car waiting for you out back.
-我去... -我自己会回去 - If you want, I can... - I know the way.
我觉得 这事如果曝光了 I thought, if this became public,
莫妮卡就没有什么危险了 Monica would not be in any sort of danger.
但你说过 But you said you felt...
无论是个人还是工作 你觉得自己都有危险 ...dangers, both personal and professional, could befall you.
你就没想过莫妮卡会有何遭遇 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica?
她会有何遭遇 What-what would befall her?
这些细节一旦曝光 她会怎样 你害怕过吗 Did you have any fears for her? All these details in the public.
我想这个我已说过 她是想过要自杀 She was... I-I think I said this. She was suicidal.
你没回答她的问题 You're not answering her question.
莫妮卡当时的经历是极为不健康的 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy.
你不认为你这样做会伤害她 But you didn't think it would bring her harm?
和那个相比 不会... Well, not compared to...
-不会 -为什么 - No. - Why not?
抱歉 你说啥 Pardon?
你为什么不替她着想 Why would you not think about her?
我当时只是在想 她的处境极为糟糕 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation.
难道你觉得你让她现在的处境变好了吗 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did?
你觉得她比以前开心了吗 Do you feel her life is better now?
-顺利吗 -准备好了吗 琳达 - How'd it go? - Ready, Linda?
真要这样吗 You sure?
其实不是很有必要的 You don't have to do this right now.
大家都很想听特里普女士开口说话 We understand there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
巴雷特·普雷蒂曼美国法院
她今天不会接受任何提问 She will not be taking any questions today.
但她同意发表一则简短的声明 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks.
下午好 Good afternoon.
我不是对外发言人 所以只能读讲稿 I'm not a public speaker. I'm going to have to refer to my notes.
请多包涵 Please bear with me.
关于我是谁 怎么会走到今天这一步 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation
我知道各种各样的说法有很多 about just who I am and how I got here.
其实答案很简单 Well, the answer is simple.
我就是你们 I'm you.
我和你们一样 I'm just like you.
我是一个普通的美国人 I'm an average American who found herself
今天这个局面不是我造成的 in a situation not of her own making.
因为我和你们一样 Because I am just like you,
我请大家想象一下： I ask you to imagine how you would feel
如果有个朋友叫你去做伪证 你会怎么想 if someone you thought was a friend urged you to commit a felony.
如果你上司的律师告诉全国人民你是个骗子 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney
你会怎么想 called you a liar in front of the whole country.
如果这个上司是美国总统 你会怎么想 And imagine if that boss was the president of the United States.
如果你的雇主怕你说出真相 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you...
而将你降职并把你扔在一边 你会怎么想 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth.
当你的孩子因持续听到... Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes
...针对母亲的谎言攻击而痛苦不堪时 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage
你会怎么想 of lies about their mother.
且这位母亲并不想出去为自己辩护 A mother who is not going out to defend herself.
我因为坚持说真话而饱受诽谤 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth.
那些不愿讲真话的人 I've been maligned by people who have chosen
一直在中伤我 not to tell the truth,
他们也知道自己没有说真话 and who know they are not telling the truth.
为了把我描绘成是个坏人 To cast me in the role of the villain,
他们花钱雇佣大群的骗子 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators.
所以毫不奇怪 Not surprisingly, many from...
娱乐圈也有很多人来嘲弄我 ...the entertainment industry have chosen to ridicule me as well.
他们甚至嘲弄我的外貌 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance
其方式极为卑劣和残忍 in a manner so mean and so cruel
这样的侮辱是没有人愿意去承受的 that I pray none of you is ever subjected to it.
虽然如此 Despite all of that,
但我并不怨恨任何人 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case.
我相信我们的国家 I believe in our country.
正如我说的 我和你们都一样 As I said, I am no different than any of you.
我相信你们都有用真话来作证的权利 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath
无需害怕报复或更惨的后果 without fear of retribution or worse.
等一切都真相大白后 I hope that when all the facts are revealed,
我希望你们会理解 you'll understand that it is a right
我们都应该为这种权利去奋斗 all of us should be fighting for.
谢谢 Thank you.
你为何背叛莱温斯基 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky?
我们不回答问题 We're not taking any questions.
琳达 录音的事你后悔吗 Linda, do you regret taping Monica?
你在利用她 是真的吗 Isn't it true you manipulated her?
你的目的是想出书吗 Did you do all this for a book deal?
现在党内的气氛已大不一样 The atmosphere feels very different among the party now.
我看过了那些证词... Look, I've read the deposition and it's very clear...
在克林顿总统自己的政党内 Members of President Clinton's
美国总统印
都有人很动摇 own party are now wavering in their support,
包括我的嘉宾 吉姆·莫兰议员 including my guest, Congressman Jim Moran.
就他向美国人民撒谎这一事实 The fact is he lied to the American people.
毫无疑问就必须得启动弹劾程序 That is undoubtedly going to necessitate impeachment proceedings.
安德鲁·约翰逊是这个国家最糟的领袖 Andrew Johnson... worst leader this country ever had.
他是林肯之后的总统 Racist to his core, drunk as hell
一个顽固的种族主义者和酒鬼 the day he took over for Lincoln.
1886年国会最终将他弹劾 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass.
有史以来 只有这个总统遭此厄运 Only president that's happened to, only one.
现在是我 Till now.
我不喜欢你这个样子 I hate it when you're like this.
我们现在还没输呢 还没有 We have not lost anything, not yet.
我会去找吉姆·莫兰 I'll call Jim Moran.
你怎么说 What'll you say?
我会说 如果他觉得他是在为我而战 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me,
那就应该站在我这边 then he needs to fight on my side.
和我的看法要一致 And the way I see it,
有人想彻底毁了我丈夫的生活 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband
我不想让他们得逞 down his whole life and I don't want them to win.
也不会让他们得逞 And I won't let them.
的确 右派们现在票数占优 And yes, the right's got the votes,
他们也想痛下杀手 and I'm sure they will do their worst.
但有一点不用说 你不是那个安德鲁·约翰逊 But to state the obvious, you are not Andrew fucking Johnson.
我们和共和党交手过那么多次 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us,
每次都是我们大获全胜 we have wiped the floor with them.
你看过民调了吗 Have you seen the polls?
他们朝着那个愚蠢的方向每迈一步 Every step they take towards this moronic idea,
你的支持率就会涨一个点 your approval jumps a point.
没人会去看民调 Nobody's looking at the polls.
我自己的政党都不去看民调了 My own party isn't looking at the polls.
他们只是在找原谅你的理由 They just need permission to forgive you.
这样的理由你是给不了的 Which is something that you can't give them.
但我能给 But I can.
联调局的东西就这么点 This is all the FBI interviews?
还有一些还没到 We're waiting on a few more.
有个问题 我们得让莫妮卡再来作证 We have a problem. We need to put Monica back under oath.
为什么 Why?
我们起诉总统伪证罪的理由 Our perjury charge rests on the president
是他借口从未有过让她兴奋的念头 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because
否认存在性关系 这是谎言 he never touched her with intent to arouse. He's lying,
但是 在莫妮卡冗长的证词里 but here's hours and hours of Monica's testimony,
她的确始终没说过 and she never once speaks about all the times
他的触摸是想挑起她的情欲 that he touched her with intent to arouse.
-是不是看证据不就知道了 -那不够明显 - It was implied on our chart. - That's weak shit.
我们需要她描述所有性行为细节 We need her under oath, in detail,
推翻他的谎言 on all the sex, proving him wrong.
行 那就把她叫来 Okay, let's bring her back in.
天哪 这类问题叫谁去问啊 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that?
现在开始 莫妮卡 这依然属于宣誓作证 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath.
首先我要问一个概括性问题 First, I want to start by asking you a general question.
你和克林顿总统的关系 Did your relationship with President Clinton
是从性关系发展到友谊呢 start with sex and then evolve into
还是反过来的 a friendship or the other way around?
一开始属于身体的吸引力 It started with a physical attraction
这种吸引力激发了性关系 which led to a sexual relationship.
在性关系发生后 And then the emotional and...
我俩之间才日积月累地有了感情 friendship aspects of that relationship developed
还有友谊等 after the beginning of the sexual relationship.
我们就从第一次身体接触开始 Why don't we start with the first incident of physical intimacy:
1995年11月15日那天 November 15, 1995,
你上次作证时也说过一点 which you've already testified some about.
好 Okay.
那天晚上 Can you tell me
你俩的身体接触是怎么开始的 how the physical intimacy between you two began that night?
我俩... Well, we were...
办公室里只有我俩 in an office alone.
我俩接吻 Kissing, you know?
接吻开始后的动作呢 And then what happened after the kissing started?
他开始解开我的衬衣 Um, he started untucking my shirt.
然后呢 And then what?
很抱歉 出于法律上的原因 I'm sorry. For legal reasons,
每一次身体接触的详情 I need to get specifically what happened.
我都必须了解 Each physical interaction.
好 Okay.
然后 他脱掉了我的毛衣 然后... So, he took off my sweater and, you know...
他摸你乳房了吗 Did he touch your breasts?
-是的 -当时你的乳罩有没有解开 - Yes. - With your bra on or off?
我... I...
我不记得当时是我自己解开乳罩的呢... I-I... I don't remember if I unhooked my bra or...
还是他... if he, um...
...拉起了我的乳罩 lifted my... bra up over...
-这很难为情 -我理解 - This is embarrassing. - I know.
我很抱歉 I'm sorry.
是他... But he...
他把你的乳罩拉到了乳房之上 He lifted the bra over your breasts?
有几次... Um... sometimes...
是他把我的乳房从乳罩里扒了出来 he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra.
上帝啊 God.
他用手摸你的乳房了吗 Did he touch your breasts with his hands?
-是的 -他用嘴接触你的乳房了吗 - Yes. - Did he touch your breasts with his mouth?
-是的 -他触摸你的阴部了吗 - Yes. - Did he touch your genital area?
我知道这... I-I know this is...
我就是在想 其他人会看到这些记录... It's just, thinking about other people reading this...
我理解 I understand,
我也是奉命向你提这些问题的 but I've been instructed to question you on these details.
-而我必须回答 -按照协议要求 - And I have to answer? - Pursuant to the agreement
的确如此 你明白吗 you have with this office, yes. Do you understand?
-明白 -好 - Yes. - Okay.
那天他摸你的阴部了吗 Did he touch your genitals on this date?
是的 Yes.
你能描述一下过程吗 Can you describe exactly how that happened?
他... He, um...
总统... The president...
要接一个电话 所以我们去了后面的办公室 got a call, so we moved into a back office.
他在接电话时 While he was on the phone...
他脱下我的裤子 用手刺激着那个区域 he put his hand, down my pants and he stimulated that area.
直接接触皮肤还是隔着短裤 Directly on your skin or through underwear?
那种触摸... It was, um, touching...
先是隔着短裤 然后... through my underwear at first and then he...
把手伸进了我的短裤里 placed his hand under my underwear.
他给你带来高潮了吗 And did he bring you to orgasm?
-是的 -好 - Yes. - Okay.
那天晚上 你替总统口交了吗 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president?
是的 Yes.
是谁想做这个的 Who initiated that?
是我 I did.
这中间总统对你说过什么话没有 Did the president say anything to you during this?
没有 No.
他在接电话 He was on the phone.
想休息会儿吗 Would you like a break?
下一个 1996年3月31日 Moving to March 31, 1996,
总统刺激你的阴部了吗 did the president stimulate your genitals?
是的 Yes.
是隔着裤子刺激吗 Was that through clothing?
不是隔着裤子 Not through clothing.
他是用手刺激你的阴部吗 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands?
是的 而且... Yes. And...
而且什么 And?
他用... He used, um...
他有一根雪茄 He had a cigar.
对不起 你能说得响一点吗 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape?
好 对不起 Okay, sorry.
他把雪茄插入了你的阴道吗 He had a cigar. Did he insert the cigar into your vagina?
很抱歉 你必须要回答出来 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally.
是的 Yes.
这是谁的主意 Whose idea, um...?
怎么会... How did that...?
在椭圆形办公室里... Um, we were talking, um,
我们常聊天 in the Oval Office...
有一天 one day and he was,
他叼着根雪茄 he-he was chewing on a...
然后他盯着雪茄看 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of...
一脸调皮 naughty way
我就说 and I said,
“我们平时可以用这个做” 所以就做了 "We can do that sometime." So we did.
你知道这会让你兴奋吗 Did you understand it to be arousing?
-是的 -那后来呢 - Yes. - Then what happened?
他把雪茄含在嘴里 He put it in his mouth.
他说味道很好 He said it tasted good.
好 还有最后一个问题 Okay, I have just one last question.
是动机方面的 It goes to your motivation.
不管出于何种理由 你想过要伤害总统吗 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president?
那是我最不想做的事 No, that's the last thing I want.
好 All right.
谢谢你 Thank you.
你做得很好 莫妮卡 You did really well, Monica.
都在这里了 我得交上去了 That's all I have. I have to run this in.
帕姆会带你出去的 Pam can help you see yourself out.
是男孩还是女孩 Is it a boy or a girl?
是男孩 It's a boy.
马佐托夫（恭喜你） Mazel tov.
但愿你是在向我道别 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye.
我要在劳工节前把报告递交给国会 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day.
那只有两周时间了 Judge, that's two weeks from now.
离选举越近 Any closer to the election and it will...
越容易显得像在打击民主党 ...appear like a political hit on the Democrats.
布雷特 大家手上的东西... Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in
-...9月4日前必须交给我 -明白 - by September 4th. - Got it.
联调局的同事送来了“302文件” Our FBI guys just sent this 302.
是5号女士的新笔录 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5.
她叫珍妮特 她改变了自己的说法 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement.
-她说什么 -克林顿强奸了她 - What she's saying? - That Bill Clinton raped her.
她是否在一月签了份书面证词 This is that same woman who, back in January,
上面说什么也没发生过 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened.
对 她说那是谎言 Right. Now she says that was a lie.
为何撒谎 是克林顿逼迫的吗 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons?
-不是 -是她捞到什么好处了吗 - No. - Was she offered something?
这里没有交易 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying...
她说起先撒谎是不想卷入此事 ...she lied at first because she didn't want to be involved.
她和克林顿已十多年没来往了 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s.
他没胁迫她 Well, if he didn't pressure her,
就构成不了犯罪 then it doesn't go to his criminality.
但强奸应该除外吧 他强奸了她 Except for the raping. He raped her.
我们不能把他过去的各种风流丑事... We can't be cluttering the report with all
...均放进报告里去 the various sexual experiences from his past.
是啊 索尔 我们只能抓住重点 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol.
我只是... I just...
法官 你看一下文件 看看他做了什么 Judge, read the 302, read what he did.
作伪证和妨碍司法公正 Perjury and obstruction of justice.
这是我们提出弹劾的依据 Those are our grounds for impeachment,
某个女士突然改变的说法 not some lady who changes her mind
-成不了依据 -但... - about what happened one night. - But...
好吧 那就不用把它放进报告里了 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all?
你可以把它编个附录 It can be an appendix if you want.
收入次要事件里 Put her in a footnote.
好吧 Okay.
珍妮特·布罗德里克