开拓者 第一季 第三集
你们在干什么 What are you doing?
处理声波数据 Working on sound‐wave data.
我是说你们在看什么 I mean what are you watching?
这 That...
是亚瑟·米勒和玛丽莲·梦露的性爱视频 is Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe having sex.
天啊 Jesus.
这是前无古人后无来者的名人性爱录像 It's the celebrity sex tape to end all celebrity sex tapes.
为什么男性技术员总是要讽刺自己 Why do male techs always feel the need to caricature themselves?
第一步 创造一个 Step one: Create a new technology
改变人类存在本质的新科技 that reinvents the nature of human existence.
第二步 把它用在黄片上 Step two: Use it for porn.
出自莎士比亚《哈姆雷特》
做真实的自己 To thine own self be true.
我们有两条规矩 二位 We have two fucking rules, guys.
第一 我们不预测未来 我们只回首过去 One: We don't look forwards, we only look back.
第二 我们不侵犯隐私 Two: We don't invade privacy.
他们在做爱 凯蒂 They're having sex, Katie.
这就是侵犯隐私 And that would be the invasion of privacy.
所有人的存在 Hardly a person exists that didn't come into being
都是两个人发生性关系的结果 because two other people had sex.
就人类行为来说 As far as human behavior goes,
这和呼吸一样重要 that puts it on a par with breathing.
你的顾虑和我没关系 Your hang‐ups are not my hang‐ups.
知道了 斯图尔特 Got it, Stewart.
如果我们让所有人来看你做爱 So, you'd be cool if we brought everyone in
你也无所谓是吗 to watch you having sex.
我不确定这个系统的能力 Not sure the system's powerful enough
是否能追溯到那么久远的事情 to predict that far back in time.
关了 研究点别的稀奇古怪的 Turn it off. Scratch some other geek itch.
查查是谁杀了肯尼迪 Do the grassy knoll.
想到了 查完了 Been there, done that.
是奥斯瓦德干的 It was Oswald.
无所谓 Whatever.
查点别的 Find something else.
别破坏规矩 And don't break the fucking rules.
"别破坏规矩" "Don't break the rules"?
她还好意思说 Coming from her...
参议员 Senator.
福雷斯特 很高兴见到你 Forest. Good to see you.
我们有一个半小时 中午要回城里吃饭 We've got an hour and a half. I have a lunch back in town.
量子计算搞得怎么样 And how are tricks in quantum computing?
-肯顿 -乔 ‐ Kenton. ‐ Joe.
很好 Thriving.
我的参议院技术监督委员会安排了听证会 My senate subcommittee on tech oversight has scheduled its hearing.
我会让你来出席的 福雷斯特 I'm going to call you in, Forest.
为什么 Why?
你的公司不仅在量子计算机领域的竞争中 Your company didn't just take the lead
遥遥领先 in the quantum computer race.
你把竞争对手都打垮了 You demolished your competitors.
他们什么都没有 They have nothing.
而你 拥有一切 You have... everything.
我有很多问题想问 And I have questions.
那是你的筹码吗 Is that your leverage?
问题 Questions.
你觉得不算筹码吗 You don't think that's leverage?
你公司里被称为开拓者的那个部门 What are you working on in the section of your company
是研究什么项目的 known as Devs?
开拓者的本意是开发 Devs means development.
每家技术公司都有开发部 Every tech company has a development division.
对 Yes.
但你们具体在开发什么 But what specifically are you developing?
我们在探索自己的 Uh, we're exploring the potential
量子计算机系统的潜力 of our quantum computer system.
有点太笼统了 That's a little vague.
笼统的回答让人觉得你不想引起注意 Vague sounds like you don't like attention.
为什么 Why is that?
这会影响我们工作的专注力 It distracts us from our work.
这些干扰和你们的工作相比不值一提 The distractions are trivial in comparison to your work.
对 Yes.
那岂不是你公司需要 Isn't that the perfect argument as to why your company
政府监管的最佳理由 needs government oversight?
但您想要的不是监管 参议员 But you don't want oversight, Senator.
而是控制 You want control.
你想要我的系统服务于国安局 You want my systems for the NSA.
我们想要你的系统 We want your systems
为美国服务 for America.
除非你觉得美国也微不足道 Unless you think America's trivial too.
你明白这里面的利害关系吗 Do you see how this works?
你知道我在公开听证会上 Do you know how easily I would crucify you
多么轻易地就能毁了你吗 in a public hearing?
大家已经开始惧怕技术公司了 福雷斯特 People have become scared of the tech companies, Forest.
真的非常惧怕 Really scared.
人工智能会造成60%的人失业 AI is gonna create sixty percent unemployment.
图享网让人们觉得自己的生活像狗屎 Instagram makes people feel like shit about their lives.
推特让他们感觉整天被喷 Twitter makes them feel reviled.
而脸书则毁灭了民主 Facebook destroyed democracy.
大家虽然使用你们 They use you.
需要你们 They need you.
但却不再喜欢你们了 But they don't like you anymore.
而且现在还有其它方面的质疑 Now there are other lines of questioning.
你的公司是个美国式的成功范例 Your company is an American success story,
再次展现我们在科技方面如何引领世界 showing again how we lead the world in tech.
尽管我们理解并尊重你们行业的 While we understand and respect the competitive nature
竞争属性 of your industry,
以及商业机密的要求 and the requirement for trade secrets,
你能简单说一下你们开拓者项目在做什么吗 could you shed a little light on what you're working on in Devs?
我们正利用量子系统来开发 We're using our quantum system to develop
一套预测算法 a prediction algorithm.
预测什么 股票市场 市场趋势 Predict what? Stock markets? Market trends?
是的 Sure.
天气 The weather?
类似的吧 And that kind of thing.
这么说你们在研发预测算法 So, you're working on a prediction algorithm
用来预测天气 for the weather.
那我们的合作就更无障碍可言了 There's no reason why it should be hard for us to work together.
明天会下雨吗 So, is it going to rain tomorrow?
看上去不像 Doesn't look like it.
好了 你先发问 Okay, you start with the question:
整数N是P乘以Q的结果吗 Is N the product of P times Q.
然后想象两条正弦曲线 Then imagine two sine waves,
一条是P 一条是Q where one is length P, and one Q.
然后弄清楚每条曲线任意一点 Just figure out the phase of each wave at any given point
在数轴上的相位 on the number line.
如果我们要算的是实数N P和Q的相位 So, if we look at point N, the phase of P and Q
一定是0 这样它们才是N的因数 must be zero if they're factors of N.
我明白 否则就会有... I get it. Or else there would be...
-余数... -等会 大伙儿 ‐ A remainder... ‐ Uh, hang on, guys...
丽丽 Hi, Lily.
抱歉我来晚了 Sorry I'm late.
我们都以为你不会来 None of us thought you were coming.
不然我们就等你了 Or we would have waited.
没关系 It's okay.
我还是来公司比较好 在家很难熬 It's better for me to be here. It's hard at home.
也是 Right.
当然了 Of course.
我们刚说到舒尔算法 We were just going over Shor.
说回来 舒尔算法是检验 Circling back. Um... Shor is testing
P与Q的相位是否相等 whether the phase of P equals the phase of Q
都等于0 我们刚研究到这儿 equals zero, and that's as far as we got.
丽丽 Lily.
丽丽 Lily?
抱歉 Sorry.
你刚才问我什么了吗 Did you ask me something?
能让我们单独谈下吗 Guys, will you give us a minute?
-当然 -谢谢 - Sure. ‐ Thanks.
我很抱歉 Hey. I'm sorry.
不 别这么说 No, don't say that.
来吧 丽丽 跟我说说 Come on. Talk to me, Lils.
我确实需要找个人聊聊 I do really need to talk to someone.
有我在呢 I'm right here.
可以和你说吗 Can I talk to you?
-当然可以 -我是说安全吗 ‐ Of course. ‐ I mean safely.
安全 Safely?
我可以信任你吗 I can trust you?
丽丽 别这么掐自己的手了 Lily, will you please stop doing that to your hands.
我可以信任你 I can trust you.
对 可以信任我 Yes, you can.
完全可以 Totally.
能出去说吗 Can we talk outside?
所以 So...
大家都觉得塞奇是自杀的 everyone believes Sergei committed suicide,
但我觉得真相不是这样 but I think it might not be true.
什么意思 什么不是真的 What do you mean? What isn't true?
我看了当时的录像 I saw the film of what happened.
但我觉得那是假的 掩盖真相用的 But I think it was fake. A cover story.
抱歉 我 I'm sorry. I'm‐‐
我还没听明白你想说什么 I just need to understand exactly what you mean.
你是想说塞奇还活着吗 Are you saying that Sergei might still be alive?
我也不知道 也许吧 I don't know. Maybe that.
也许还有别的事 Maybe something else.
-但他们找到尸体了 -都烧成灰了 ‐ But they found a body, Lils. ‐ It was burned to shit.
根本认不出是他 可能是任何人 Who knows if it was him? Could be anyone.
抱歉 恕我直言 Sorry to be graphic, okay?
我认为即使烧焦了他们也可以辨认的 But I think they can still identify burned bodies.
DNA 牙齿之类的 DNA, dental, that kind of thing.
那又是谁做的鉴定呢 But who's doing the identifying?
中情局吗 The CIA?
不 不是中情局 是警察 No, not the CIA. The police.
验尸官做的 The coroner.
如果他们是一伙的呢 And what if they're a part of it?
什么一伙的 Part of what?
我昨天跟某个人谈过话 I spoke to someone yesterday.
无论发生了什么 Whatever's going on, it...
珍 Oh, hey, Jen.
你俩干什么呢 What are you guys doing?
跟丽丽聊天呢 Lils and I were just talking.
-好吧 -你介意珍一起吗 ‐ Okay. ‐ You mind Jen joining us?
不介意 她没问题 No. She's cool.
我们刚刚在聊塞奇 So, Lils was talking about Sergei.
-她有些想法 -不只是想法 ‐ And she has some thoughts. ‐ More than thoughts.
对 之前出的事 Right. That there might be something weird
有点不对头 about what happened.
所以 可以说说吗 你跟谁谈话了 So, what were you going to say? About who you spoke to.
我不能讲太多 I can't tell you too much.
但这件事关涉国际问题 好吗 But it's international, okay?
涉及国际间的力量制衡 It involves international forces.
一团糟 It's fucked up.
好的 我不对你说的任何事 Okay. I'm not making any judgment
作出任何评论 about anything you're saying.
我没说这些都不对 I'm not saying any of it is wrong.
没有不对 It's not fucking wrong.
当然 Sure.
即使你担心的是真的 But even if everything you're worried about is true,
你仍然遭受了重大打击 you're still someone who has suffered a terrible shock.
痛失挚爱 A terrible loss.
我觉得你需要找一个 And I think you need to talk to someone
能在这方面帮到你的人沟通一下 who can help you with that.
是 Yeah.
我的确需要 I do.
那就好 Good.
我会跟肯顿谈谈 I'll speak to Kenton.
安保部负责人 The head of security?
我觉得这是个好主意 丽丽 I think that's a good idea, Lils.
这种事情你就应该找肯顿 This is the kind of thing you should be telling Kenton.
这件事不是我们能处理得了的 It's above our pay‐grade, right?
对 Yeah.
他会知道该怎么处理 He'll know what to do.
珍 能单独聊聊吗 Jen, mind if I talk to you a moment?
你胡闹什么 What the fuck are you doing?
你看不出来她不太正常吗 Can't you see she's not well?
我当然能看出来 Of course I can see.
那你顺着她说干什么 Then what are you doing going along with this shit?
-国际间的力量制衡 -好吧 ‐ International forces? ‐ Okay, look.
我不想跟这件事有瓜葛 I didn't want to get into this.
但我跟丽丽很早就认识了 But me and Lils go back.
这不是第一次了 This isn't the first time, okay?
她有... She's had...
发作过 episodes.
-类似这种情况 -什么情况 ‐ Stuff like this before. ‐ Stuff like what?
她有精神分裂症 Schizophrenia.
见鬼 Oh, shit.
如果我们没有做好应对 什么都可能发生 If we make the wrong move now, anything could happen.
她可能恢复正常 可能跑掉 可能就此消失 She could flip. She could run. She could vanish.
那样就没人再能帮到她了 And then no one can help her.
所以 我们要做的就是趁她还没发觉 So, what we do is get her into the system
就把她送去治疗 without her realizing.
我们给她一种在配合她的假象 We make it look like we're doing what she wants.
好 我明白了 我来打电话 Okay, I get it. I'll make the call.
我有一套好行头 I get a good suit.
工资比我以前的高 The pay is better than I'm used to.
我也不用两周都不洗澡了 And I don't have to go two weeks without a shower.
但事实是 But the truth is...
每天 每时每刻 all day, every day,
我他妈都要无聊死了 I am bored out of my fucking mind.
就算有个混蛋拿把枪或是刀 What I wouldn't give for some little jerk
把她干掉 我也无所谓 to pull a gun or a knife, and try and take her out.
可惜从来没发生过 But... never happens.
认真地说 Seriously.
你不怀念吗 Don't you miss it?
警服吗 The uniform?
简直就是肾上腺素 The fucking adrenaline.
老实说 算不上怀念 Honestly, can't say I do.
抱歉 Excuse me.
肯顿 Kenton.
丽丽·陈 Lily Chan?
我认为那不是个好主意 I don't think that's a good idea.
她的上级 她到底怎么说的 Her super? What exactly did she say?
我十分钟后到 I'll be there in ten minutes.
该死 Shit.
你自己在这可以吗 Can you hold the fort?
应该没问题 Think I'll just about manage.
我收到了你主管的消息 So, I got a message from your supervisor
说你想要和我谈谈 that you wanted to talk to me personally.
你想私下谈吗 Do you want to talk in private?
不 我想让她留下 No. I want her to stay.
好吧 Okay.
所以 So...
我在这里呢 说吧 I'm here. Go ahead.
是关于塞奇的 It's about Sergei.
有点事情 There's... stuff.
他有些事你们不知道 Stuff about him you don't know.
比如 Like what?
比如他不是他之前说的那样 Like he wasn't what he said he was.
他之前是在为别人做事 He was working for someone.
我昨天见了个人 他知道一切 And I met a man yesterday who knew all about it.
谁 Who was that?
一个间谍 A spy.
一个特工 An operative.
-"特工" -是的 俄罗斯人 ‐ An "operative". ‐ Yes. Russian.
而且我不认为塞奇是自杀 And I don't think Sergei committed suicide.
我认为他是被谋杀的 I think he was murdered.
谁杀的 Murdered by who?
我认为是他们 I think it was them.
-那些俄罗斯特工们 -是的 ‐ The operatives. The Russians. ‐ Yes.
他们想骗我 They were trying to trick me.
他们想拉我入伙 They were trying to recruit me, okay?
但我看透了 But I saw through it.
我以前经历过这些 Because I've been through all this before.
在布鲁克林 In Brooklyn.
在布鲁克林 In‐‐ In Brooklyn?
几年前 我在一家初创公司工作 A few years ago, I was working with a start‐up.
当时我在加密组 我开始看到 I was on the encryption team, and I started to see
一大堆毫无意义的事情 a whole bunch of things that made no sense.
比如 我看到那些本应是随机数生成器的字符串 Like, I'd look at strings that should have been RNG's,
但它们明显不是随机数生成器生成的 but they obviously weren't RNG's.
到处都是斐波纳契序列 There were Fibonacci sequences everywhere,
他妈的到处都是 I mean, fucking everywhere.
-那是什么 -她在本该是随机数的字符串里 ‐ That's‐‐ What's a... ‐ She was seeing a pattern
看到了一种模式 in what should have been random numbers.
自然界也有同样的模式 And you get the same pattern in nature.
比如一朵花上面的花瓣 Like numbers of petals on a flower.
贝壳上的纹路分割 Number of segments in a shell.
当时 我有一个男朋友 And at that time, I had a boyfriend
手臂和背部都纹了龙花的纹身 who had a dragon flower tattoo over his arm and back.
我数了上面的花瓣数 And I counted the petals, okay?
分别是5和8 And it was five and eight.
而龙有21片鳞 And the dragon had twenty‐one scales.
都是他妈是一回事 And that's the same fucking thing.
-跟什么是一回事 -跟塞奇的遭遇是一回事 ‐ Same as what? ‐ Same as Sergei.
我没听明白 I'm not following.
你能说这一切都是巧合吗 Are you telling me this is all a coincidence?
-丽丽 -你别说话 ‐ Lily? ‐ No!
回答我的问题 Just answer the question.
可能会是巧合吗 Can this be a coincidence?
珍 你记得布鲁克林发生的事 Jen, you remember what happened in Brooklyn.
-我记得 -现在又轮到塞奇了 对吧 ‐ Yes. ‐ And now Sergei. Right?
对 Right.
所以呢 So?
珍 别他妈的这样 I mean do not fucking do this, Jen.
-当时你也在的 -丽丽 冷静 是的 我在场 ‐ You were there, back then. ‐ Lily, please. Yes, I was there.
不要像是看疯子一样看着我 Then don't look at me like you think I'm crazy.
我告诉你们 我昨天见到了他妈的俄国特工 I'm telling you, I met the fucking Russian operative yesterday,
就在金门大桥附近 right by Golden Gate Bridge.
光天化日之下 In‐‐ In broad daylight.
真他妈的 珍 Jesus fucking Christ, Jen,
我对上帝发誓 如果你不相信我... I swear to God, if you're not going to believe me...
我没说我不相信你... I didn't say I didn't believe you...
去你的 Fuck!
我要透透气 I need air.
没人希望科技进步被逆转 Nobody expects technological progress to be reversed.
它从来不会被逆转 It never is.
我觉得这相当于工业革命 I think the equivalent is the Industrial Revolution,
所以我的工作就是阻止 which makes my job to stop the Luddites
勒德分子毁坏织机 from smashing the looms.
那就好 议员 Good to know, Senator.
所以即便我不再为你的竞选筹款了 So, you'd continue to protect my tech company
你也还是会继续保护我的科技公司吗 even if I stopped raising money for your campaign?
-别天真了 -彼此彼此 ‐ Don't be cute. ‐ Likewise.
我的园区不是 My campus is not...
你是说她以前其实住院治疗过 You're telling me she's actually been hospitalized before.
大概一个月 也许更久一点 For like a month. Maybe more.
我不太清楚 是她的家人处理的 I don't know much, her family took care of it.
-但是 -等等 ‐ But... ‐ Hold on.
-先生 -丽丽·陈在你办公室外面的窗台上 ‐ Sir. ‐ Lily Chan is on the ledge outside your office.
什么 What?
把她安全地弄下来 赶紧的 Get her down safely. Right fucking now.
该死 Fuck.
好了 丽丽 Okay, Lily.
你可以告诉我 我们在这里干什么吗 Mind telling me what we're doing out here?
只是想呼吸一点新鲜空气 Just needed fresh air.
地面的空气不够新鲜吗 Air's not fresh enough on the ground?
只是想出来 Needed to get out.
我们现在出来了 Well, we're out.
我想这里的空气很新鲜 所以 I guess the air is fresh up here. So...
那就最好不往地面方向移动 let's not make any sudden movements in the ground direction.
丽丽 我得告诉你件事 Lily, I've got to tell you something.
你跟我说的关于俄国特工和塞奇的一切 Everything you told me about the Russian operatives, and Sergei,
你可能觉得大家不会相信你 you probably feel that people won't believe you.
也许他们会认为你疯了 Maybe they'll think you're crazy.
但事实上 我相信你 But actually, I do believe you.
我想这一切都可能是真的 I think it all may be true.
这真是个疯狂的世界 Man, it's a crazy world.
发生的这些破事怪异到 The shit that happens is weirder than
超出了任何人的期待和想象 anyone ever expects, ever imagines.
对吧 True, right?
像你我这样的人都看得透 Well, that's‐‐ that's what people like you and me know.
没有什么比现实更怪异了 That nothing is stranger than reality.
什么都比不上 Nothing.
是啊 Yeah.
与此同时 你看到下面那些人了吗 In the meantime, you see those people down there?
他们担心你会跳下去 They're worried you're gonna jump.
我不担心 因为我觉得我们互相理解 I'm not, because I think we understand each other.
但他们的心都提到嗓子眼了 But they have their hearts in their mouths.
他们很恐慌 They're frightened.
我认为现在正确的做法是 I think the right thing to do is for us to
沿着这条窗台往回走 just walk back down this ledge.
缓步走回那条人行道上 Crawl back onto that walkway.
然后就可以告诉我 还有什么是我需要知道的 And you tell me whatever else it is you need me to know.
好吗 Okay?
好吧 Okay.
来吧 Come on.
今天很充实 Quite the day.
-是啊 -我们随时联系 ‐ Yeah. ‐ I'll be in touch.
你这个幸运的家伙 You lucky son of a bitch.
都是技术活 It's all go in tech.
先生 Sir.
就差一点 肯顿 差点就玩完了 That was very close, Kenton. It nearly fucked the universe.
还是有好的一面的 先生 There's an upside, sir.
我们对丽丽·陈有了杀手锏 We have an ace‐card with Lily Chan.
什么杀手锏 What ace card?
她有精神分裂症 She's schizophrenic.
或者别的什么 据她同事说 Or something. According to her pal,
她至少有两次发病史 she's had at least two previous episodes,
其中一次住院治疗了 one of which required hospitalization.
-我们都不知道吗 -她隐瞒了 ‐ And we didn't know? ‐ Well, she hid it.
在她的病史单上没有体现 Undeclared on her medical forms,
为了得到这份工作 in case she couldn't get the job.
但没事 But it's cool.
我们随时可以使出这个杀手锏 We can play that card any time.
关于我们 她说什么都没有说服力 Anything she says about us is dismissible.
她不论遭遇什么都说得通 Anything that happens to her is explainable.
但她什么都不会遭遇 肯顿 But nothing is going to happen to her, Kenton.
我知道 I know.
她现在在哪里 So, where is she now?
她同事带她回家了 Her buddy took her home.
似乎知道怎么照料她 Seems to know how to handle her.
明天 我们给她找个心理专家 要我们的人 And tomorrow, we set her up with a shrink. One of ours.
让她既跟我们保持一定的距离 又在监视之下 That keeps her both at arm's length, and under observation.
都没问题 先生 It's all okay, sir.
我们还在你的轨迹上 We're still on your tram lines.
我的老天 Holy mother‐fucking shit!
简直是奥斯卡级别的 丽丽 That was Oscar‐level, Lils.
比如 天啊 那个哭戏 Like, Jesus. The crying?
简直太绝了 Fucking incredible.
我当时没必要演这么过 I didn't have to reach far to find that.
但还是很绝 But still.
那套斐波纳契说辞 And that Fibonacci stuff.
纹身 The tattoo.
你对他们说我有精神病史吗 You told them I had a psychiatric history?
是的 他们相信了 百分百信 Yep, and they bought it. Hundred percent.
我是说 连我都信了 I mean, I fucking bought it.
你觉得他们会查证吗 Do you think they can check?
我觉得他们大可以查 但从哪里查 I think they can try, but where do they look?
你可能去过加拿大或者墨西哥 谁知道 You could have been in Canada or Mexico for all they know.
给 Here.
你想要的都在里面 It's got exactly what you wanted.
太谢谢你了 Thank you so much.
不用 No.
他也是我的朋友 He was my friend too.
所以这是你的新爱好吗 So, this is your new thing, then?
从窗外进来 Appearing outside windows.
算是吧 It kind of is.
杰米 Jamie...
我需要你再帮我一次 I do need your help again.
当然 Sure.
塞奇在离开阿玛雅公司之后 Sergei was missing twenty‐four hours
失踪了24小时 after leaving Amaya.
那段时间里 他没有用手机 In that time, he didn't use his phone.
也没有刷信用卡 He didn't use a credit card.
大家掌握的唯一信息 The only information anyone has
就是他走回阿玛雅公司 is the film of him walking back into Amaya,
然后自焚的录像 and setting himself on fire.
我这里有当晚的所有监控录像 I have all the security footage from that night right here.
但我没法一个人看 But I can't watch it alone.
你为了他而甩了我 You want us to watch the man you left me for
你想让我们一起看他 burn himself to death...
自焚吗 together?
这也太奇怪了 丽丽 That's transcendently weird, Lily.
我知道 I know.
好了 无线网络彻底没法用了 Okay. Wi‐Fi's ultra‐dead.
没人看得到我们 We're unseeable.
天啊 Jesus Christ.
你确定要看吗 Are you sure about this?
我可以自己看 你不必再看一次 I can watch it alone. You don't have to see it again.
我没事 杰米 I'm okay, Jamie.
接着放吧 Just play it.
该死 Fuck.
好了 Okay.
-什么也看不出 -不 等等 ‐ There's nothing there. ‐ No. No. Wait a second.
-怎么了 -我不知道 让我试试 ‐ What? ‐ I'm not sure. Just let me...
怎么了 What is it?
你看 Look,
这里 right here,
还有这里 right here.
这两处火焰 The flames...
都是一样的 they're the same.
每一帧都是 Every frame...
火焰一模一样 the same flame.
-你看到了吗 -我看到了 ‐ Do you see it? ‐ I see it.
是视觉特效 It's VFX.
百分之百 这火不是真的 One hundred percent, they're not real.
你说还有具尸体 是吗 You said there was a body, right?
是的 Yes.
是实物吗 你亲眼所见 But a physical body. You actually saw it.
我亲眼所见 I saw it.
警察也在那 The police were there.
还有法医 Forensics.
如果你看到了真的尸体 If you saw a physical body,
这火焰又是数码效果 and it's a digital fire effect,
那只有一种可能性了 that allows for a possibility.
尸体是真的 The body is real,
自杀是假的 the suicide is fake.
他们杀了他 They murdered him.